Rock Raptor
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My wife carries a Black Ruger P-90 .45 and will not shoot anything else. I own a S&W 44 mag, 3-9mm's, and a host of other handguns, but my concealed carry and desert packing pistol is a matching Ruger P-90 .45 in Stainless. No one has ever seen it while concealed either in a shoulder rig, or on the hip under a windbreaker or long shirt. I have wore it so long now, I don't even know it's there. In comparison, the P-90 is really not noticably any different than the same model in 9mm, and along the same size as other mid framed models in 9mm and .45's.
Go for the extra energy and get the larger caliber.
Shot count is not near as important as shot placement. 17, 9mm rounds isn't going to matter if you can't place the shots. If you can't hit the target, the number of rounds is not really going to make a big differences, except only in the averages of having more rounds and having some luck.
Statics (and I have no instant reference, just what I was taught) say a person hit with a 9mm or smaller will suffer a loss of blood pressure from not only the wound but from the shock of being shot. The penetration or load of the bullet will not allow it to travel that far into the body since it is a small projectile, carrying less energy. After a few seconds, the person will somewhat recover and continue the attack. The FBI agent that I learned from says if the only thing you have is a 9mm, fire all available rounds, then run and only look back after you are at a safe distance.
The same person hit with a 357, 40, 44, or 45 will recieve a heavier projectile with more energy and greater penetration, thus increasing the chance of greater injury. Add FMJHP's and the damage path doubles with depth as the projectile fragments and continues into more vital areas due to more bullet weight and energy.
If ever in the situation, I would rather fire a couple rounds well placed and know that the receipient is not going to get back up. Besides, if they live, they will sue you, even if they were trying to kill you first. The lawyers will see that they get something for being the victim of you carrying a firearm and not giving in to being assaulted and letting them take your property. So make sure you have something that will keep you from getting sued.
I know the 9mm supporters don't like the explanation, but it gives you something to think about.
Oh, and with practice, that first hard trigger pull can be just as accurate as the 7 other light trigger pulls. I never fire the first round cocked, and I practice often enough that I can shoot the same group with the first round and the last.
Plinking at cans is fun, but by practice, I mean going out, getting a real silouette, marking off the distances, and scoring yourself on the hits. With time at 7 yards, you can put 4 of your 7 rounds practically in the same hole, and know your going to be in the kill zone with each round. Being good at 7 yards and closer is all your ever going to have to be good at to protect yourself.
Finally, Holster selection is just as important as the handgun you decide on and you get what you pay for. A cheap holster will feel cheap, wheras a higher quality one will hold up better, and is designed to not only holster the handgun, but feel comfortable while your carrying.
Frontier Sporting Goods here in Fallon can get you into a P-90 .45 for just over 4 bills plus the brady. There might be someone selling them a touch cheaper in Reno, but I doubt it.
Go for the extra energy and get the larger caliber.
Shot count is not near as important as shot placement. 17, 9mm rounds isn't going to matter if you can't place the shots. If you can't hit the target, the number of rounds is not really going to make a big differences, except only in the averages of having more rounds and having some luck.
Statics (and I have no instant reference, just what I was taught) say a person hit with a 9mm or smaller will suffer a loss of blood pressure from not only the wound but from the shock of being shot. The penetration or load of the bullet will not allow it to travel that far into the body since it is a small projectile, carrying less energy. After a few seconds, the person will somewhat recover and continue the attack. The FBI agent that I learned from says if the only thing you have is a 9mm, fire all available rounds, then run and only look back after you are at a safe distance.
The same person hit with a 357, 40, 44, or 45 will recieve a heavier projectile with more energy and greater penetration, thus increasing the chance of greater injury. Add FMJHP's and the damage path doubles with depth as the projectile fragments and continues into more vital areas due to more bullet weight and energy.
If ever in the situation, I would rather fire a couple rounds well placed and know that the receipient is not going to get back up. Besides, if they live, they will sue you, even if they were trying to kill you first. The lawyers will see that they get something for being the victim of you carrying a firearm and not giving in to being assaulted and letting them take your property. So make sure you have something that will keep you from getting sued.
I know the 9mm supporters don't like the explanation, but it gives you something to think about.
Oh, and with practice, that first hard trigger pull can be just as accurate as the 7 other light trigger pulls. I never fire the first round cocked, and I practice often enough that I can shoot the same group with the first round and the last.
Plinking at cans is fun, but by practice, I mean going out, getting a real silouette, marking off the distances, and scoring yourself on the hits. With time at 7 yards, you can put 4 of your 7 rounds practically in the same hole, and know your going to be in the kill zone with each round. Being good at 7 yards and closer is all your ever going to have to be good at to protect yourself.
Finally, Holster selection is just as important as the handgun you decide on and you get what you pay for. A cheap holster will feel cheap, wheras a higher quality one will hold up better, and is designed to not only holster the handgun, but feel comfortable while your carrying.
Frontier Sporting Goods here in Fallon can get you into a P-90 .45 for just over 4 bills plus the brady. There might be someone selling them a touch cheaper in Reno, but I doubt it.
